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Mohammed's early more peaceful recitations from back when he lived in Mecca such as "no compulsion in religion", are inconsistent with his later calls for his followers to "fight", "strike terror into the hearts of", and "smite the unbelievers at the neck", of his post-Medina days. For this reason Islamic scholars understand Mohammed's "revelations" to be a linear progression with later revelations displacing earlier ones when conflict arises. Particularly since Mohammed declared it himself in answer to the critics of his day that pointed out his self-contradiction.

Surah 16:101 When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

Thus the later "stages" of his "revelations" "substitute" for his earlier revelations, when discrepancies arise.

(Yusuf Ali) Quran 2:106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

Asad's translation is perhaps more clear.

Sura 2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?

Al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh is the Islamic doctrine of abrogation, and title of the classic book by an Islamic scholar - Abil-Kasim Hibat-Allah Ibn-Salama Abi-Nasr - that details abrogated verses, and what they have been abrogated by. Google the term "naskh" for more.

By way of comparison the revelation of YHWH to mankind spans a period of 16 centuries from Moses to the Messiah and His Apostles. Over those 1600 years mankind progressed from being desert dwelling nomads, to establishing advanced nations with religious laws of the Sanhedrin, as well as the civil law of kings and emperors. In fact the first mechanical computer - the antikythera mechanism - was built a century or two before the Christian era. YHWH revealed Himself to His people through a progression of prophets and witnesses as mankind developed.

However the Qur'an's 71 suras that are subject to abrogation out of only 114 total, recited over the brief 23 year span of a single person's "revelations", doesn't suggest divine inspiration as much as the changing whims of it's author.

To quote Don Richardson from "Secrets of the Koran"

"By Mohammed's day, 1,500 years had passed since any Hebrew prophet was described in the Old Testament as using a sword in the service of God. Neither Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Micah, Amos, Malachi nor any other later Hebrew prophet is described as using the sword or prescribing its use."

The 1600 year record of YHWH culminated in the revelation of the Messiah, the Prince of Peace, the sinless Lamb of God, while Mohammed's revelations progressed in the exact opposite direction from peaceful to violent.

Mohammed was barely able to win a hundred converts during the first 13 years of his more peaceful recitations in Mecca. Then Mohammed and his followers left Mecca for Medina in 622 AD - known as the Hijra - where he enlisted a couple local bandit tribes, picked up the sword and began the spread of Islam through imperialistic conquest and subjugation of the vanquished to his religion. The Islamic calendar doesn't even begin until this Hijra flip from peaceful to violent.

Thus the sura from Mohammed's early Mecca days ....

Sura 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion...

... is abrogated by about a hundred verses that suggest violence against non-Muslims as the "better" "substitute" from his later post-Hijra days like ....

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

The word "Jizya" means penalty, and is a tax levied on those attacked and vanquished, so their new masters can parasitize the fruit of their labor. It is a "protection" tax that works the way the Mafia sells "protection" to restaurant, bar owners and shop keepers, to protect them from ....... the Mafia. Non-muslims were to feel enslaved, and as they paid the tax to their Islamic masters they were subject to being slapped across the face, to further humiliate them and reinforce the nature of the relationship. Those that submitted to Mohammed's religion were not subject to the Jizya tax, just like young people in the U.S. that convert to Islam will not be forced to buy health insurance under obamacare. Please Google - obamacare dhimmitude - or visit the subject in our forum to understand more about how dhimmitude works.

Mohammed even recited a contradiction that contradicts his tacit admissions of contradiction.

Sura 4.82 Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy.

Naive westerners indoctrinated through dissimulation into Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion parrot what they have been taught about Islam being a religion of peace. True Muslims that live in the cradle of Mohammed's religion that imitate Mohammed's own deeds, view Muslims that reject the 1400 year Islamic goal of imperialistic conquest of all the kingdoms of the world, as apostates. This is why Muslims on the sidelines remain largely silent in regard to Islamic terrorism.

Others that proclaim Islam to be a religion of peace may be purveyors of taqiyyah, or Islamic subterfuge and dissimulation, whitewashing Islam to deceive folks in non-Islamic states into accepting it, until they gain the power to begin making demands. These deceivers are the ones so often spotlighted by western media dupes, even as the same pundits remain silent on Mohammed's followers responsibility for the killing of over two million innocents in the Sudan alone, let alone their persecution of Christians all around the rest of the world.

When Mohammed's call to violence against non-muslims is pointed out to western Muslims, many have been trained to cry "you are taking those verses out of context", and suggest that they are references to specific events. But to this I would ask of our Muslim friends, which of the following imperialistic conquests of the Islamic First Jihad, were Mohammed's followers not to .....

Sura 8:12 ....instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks...

623 - Battle of Waddan

623 - Battle of Safwan

623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir

624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.

624 - Zakat becomes mandatory

624 - Battle of Badr

624 - Battle of Bani Salim

624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr

624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa

624 - Battle of Sawiq

624 - Battle of Ghatfan

624 - Battle of Bahran

625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.

625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad

625 - Battle of Banu Nudair

625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa

626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra

626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal

626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah

627 - Battle of the Trench

627 - Battle of Ahzab

627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza

627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan

627 - Battle of Ghaiba

627 - Battle of Khaibar

628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.

630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.

630 - Battle of Hunsin.

630 - Battle of Tabuk

632 - Muhammad dies.

632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.

633 - Battle at Oman

633 - Battle at Hadramaut.

633 - Battle of Kazima

633 - Battle of Walaja

633 - Battle of Ulleis

633 - Battle of Anbar

634 - Battle of Basra,

634 - Battle of Damascus

634 - Battle of Ajnadin.

634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.

634 - Battle of Namaraq

634 - Battle of Saqatia.

635 - Battle of Bridge.

635 - Battle of Buwaib.

635 - Conquest of Damascus.

635 - Battle of Fahl.

636 - Battle of Yermuk.

636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.

636 - Conquest of Madain.

637 - Battle of Jalula.

638 - Battle of Yarmouk.

638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.

638 - Conquest of Jazirah.

639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.

641 - Battle of Nihawand

642 - Battle of Ray in Persia

643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan

644 - Conquest of Fars

644 - Conquest of Kharan.

644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.

647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress

644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.

648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.

651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.

654 - Islam spreads into North Africa

656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.

658 - Battle of Nahrawan.

659 - Conquest of Egypt

661 - Ali is murdered.

662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.

666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims

677 - Siege of Constantinople

687 - Battle of Kufa

691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq

700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam

700 - Military campaigns in North Africa

702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira

711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar

711 - Conquest of Spain

713 - Conquest of Multan

716 - Invasion of Constantinople

732 - Battle of Tours in France.

740 - Battle of the Nobles.

741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa

744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.

746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha

748 - Battle of Rayy.

749 - Battle of lsfahan

749 - Battle of Nihawand

772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa

777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain

It's obvious that Islam has not been a religion of peace from the beginning of the Islamic calendar at Hijra, with Mohammed himself having had 800 Jewish farm boys and their dads of the Banu Quraisa brought before him and beheaded, while sexually enslaving their wives and children, and stealing their property.

Indeed, by the time the Islamic hordes arrived in Tours France in 732, they were traveling with so much stolen property or as the Quran calls it "booty", that it impeded their escape after their failed assault.

Nor is Islam a religion of peace today with over 16,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11, as meticulously logged by the folks at TheReligionOfPeace.com, that were perpetrated by those that behave as Mohammed did.

As Benjamin Netanyahu said "If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel". Muslim leaders vow to "drive the Jews into the sea" and "kill all the Jews" and conquer Israel, in part because Muslims enjoy more freedom in Israel's democracy today, than Muslims do in any Islamic state. Perhaps nothing is more diametrically opposed to Islam than freedom.

Ironically western peace loving Muslims are cheering on their own destruction, because just as Mohammed's call to violence abrogates his earlier notions of peace, the most violent of Mohammed's true followers that "strike terror into the hearts" of the innocent, will be the ultimate arbiters of Islam "nullifying" any peacenick apostates that find it repugnant to imitate the violent behavior of their prophet.

Blessedly according to Islamic scholars 75% of so-called "converts" to Islam in the U.S. leave within a few years. Perhaps the 25% left are women who had children with Muslim husbands and don't want them kidnapped and taken to the middle east, and the intellectually challenged such as prison converts. To our Muslim friends, why not come out of Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion, and prostration toward the Quraish's black stone idol and Kaaba in Mecca, to join us in following the one true God through the Prince of Peace - the sinless Messiah - the Lamb of God?

1John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

For discussion of this subject please join us in the Islam-Christian Forum at the first link below the video. The drop-down menu below this video contains lots of links to other videos and resources regarding abrogation and more.


	ISRAEL IN BIBLE PROPHECY \| home INDEX \| DANIEL'S BEASTS \| DANIEL'S "TIMES" PROPHECIES \| LBL \| ANTICHRIST \| JOHN'S EIGHT BEASTS \| JOHN'S 1260 "DAYS" \| BEAST 42 "MONTHS" \| 666 \| THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION \| GENTILE 42 "MONTHS" \| 69 WEEKS \| DANIEL'S 1290 "DAYS" \| DANIEL'S 1335 "DAYS" \| FIG TREE \| SOME JEWS BLINDNESS TO THE GOSPEL \| TWO WITNESSES \| THAT MAN OF SIN \| CHRISTIAN POLYTHEISM \| ISLAM, DECEPTION, AHMED DEEDAT, AND TAQIYYAH \| NOT THE SAME GOD \| LAMB SLAIN \| THE STRONG DELUSION \| DEEDAT, ISLAM, HITLER AND HATE \| APOLOGY TO MUSLIMS \| ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS \| ISLAM AND FRIENDSHIP \| ISLAMIC JIHAD \| THE TEMPLE OF GOD \| THE BEAST OF REVELATION 13 \| TEXTUAL INTEGRITY - BIBLE VS QURAN \| NEW COVENANT \| ISLAM: THE PERFECT OPPOSITE \| MOHAMMED'S HEAVEN \| ISLAM AND SCRIPTURE \| ISLAM 101. \| CHURCH TRADITION \| QURAN & ABROGATION \| THE NAME ALLAH \| GAZA \| QURAN INSPIRATION \| YHWH MANIFEST \| BANU QURAYZA MASSACRE \| JIHAD \| JESUS' CRUCIFIXION IN PROPHECY \| THE SCRIPTURES WERE CORRUPTED \| THE PALE HORSE \| YAHWEH YAHSHUA \| OLD TESTAMENT VIOLENCE \| ZIONISM \| Anti-Zionism & Anti-Zionists QURAN & ABROGATION (link to video) Mohammed's early more peaceful recitations from back when he lived in Mecca such as "no compulsion in religion", are inconsistent with his later calls for his followers to "fight", "strike terror into the hearts of", and "smite the unbelievers at the neck", of his post-Medina days. For this reason Islamic scholars understand Mohammed's "revelations" to be a linear progression with later revelations displacing earlier ones when conflict arises. Particularly since Mohammed declared it himself in answer to the critics of his day that pointed out his self-contradiction. Surah 16:101 When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not. Thus the later "stages" of his "revelations" "substitute" for his earlier revelations, when discrepancies arise. (Yusuf Ali) Quran 2:106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things? Asad's translation is perhaps more clear. Sura 2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything? Al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh is the Islamic doctrine of abrogation, and title of the classic book by an Islamic scholar - Abil-Kasim Hibat-Allah Ibn-Salama Abi-Nasr - that details abrogated verses, and what they have been abrogated by. Google the term "naskh" for more. By way of comparison the revelation of YHWH to mankind spans a period of 16 centuries from Moses to the Messiah and His Apostles. Over those 1600 years mankind progressed from being desert dwelling nomads, to establishing advanced nations with religious laws of the Sanhedrin, as well as the civil law of kings and emperors. In fact the first mechanical computer - the antikythera mechanism - was built a century or two before the Christian era. YHWH revealed Himself to His people through a progression of prophets and witnesses as mankind developed. However the Qur'an's 71 suras that are subject to abrogation out of only 114 total, recited over the brief 23 year span of a single person's "revelations", doesn't suggest divine inspiration as much as the changing whims of it's author. To quote Don Richardson from "Secrets of the Koran" "By Mohammed's day, 1,500 years had passed since any Hebrew prophet was described in the Old Testament as using a sword in the service of God. Neither Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Micah, Amos, Malachi nor any other later Hebrew prophet is described as using the sword or prescribing its use." The 1600 year record of YHWH culminated in the revelation of the Messiah, the Prince of Peace, the sinless Lamb of God, while Mohammed's revelations progressed in the exact opposite direction from peaceful to violent. Mohammed was barely able to win a hundred converts during the first 13 years of his more peaceful recitations in Mecca. Then Mohammed and his followers left Mecca for Medina in 622 AD - known as the Hijra - where he enlisted a couple local bandit tribes, picked up the sword and began the spread of Islam through imperialistic conquest and subjugation of the vanquished to his religion. The Islamic calendar doesn't even begin until this Hijra flip from peaceful to violent. Thus the sura from Mohammed's early Mecca days .... Sura 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion... ... is abrogated by about a hundred verses that suggest violence against non-Muslims as the "better" "substitute" from his later post-Hijra days like .... Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them And Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. The word "Jizya" means penalty, and is a tax levied on those attacked and vanquished, so their new masters can parasitize the fruit of their labor. It is a "protection" tax that works the way the Mafia sells "protection" to restaurant, bar owners and shop keepers, to protect them from ....... the Mafia. Non-muslims were to feel enslaved, and as they paid the tax to their Islamic masters they were subject to being slapped across the face, to further humiliate them and reinforce the nature of the relationship. Those that submitted to Mohammed's religion were not subject to the Jizya tax, just like young people in the U.S. that convert to Islam will not be forced to buy health insurance under obamacare. Please Google - obamacare dhimmitude - or visit the subject in our forum to understand more about how dhimmitude works. Mohammed even recited a contradiction that contradicts his tacit admissions of contradiction. Sura 4.82 Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy. Naive westerners indoctrinated through dissimulation into Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion parrot what they have been taught about Islam being a religion of peace. True Muslims that live in the cradle of Mohammed's religion that imitate Mohammed's own deeds, view Muslims that reject the 1400 year Islamic goal of imperialistic conquest of all the kingdoms of the world, as apostates. This is why Muslims on the sidelines remain largely silent in regard to Islamic terrorism. Others that proclaim Islam to be a religion of peace may be purveyors of taqiyyah, or Islamic subterfuge and dissimulation, whitewashing Islam to deceive folks in non-Islamic states into accepting it, until they gain the power to begin making demands. These deceivers are the ones so often spotlighted by western media dupes, even as the same pundits remain silent on Mohammed's followers responsibility for the killing of over two million innocents in the Sudan alone, let alone their persecution of Christians all around the rest of the world. When Mohammed's call to violence against non-muslims is pointed out to western Muslims, many have been trained to cry "you are taking those verses out of context", and suggest that they are references to specific events. But to this I would ask of our Muslim friends, which of the following imperialistic conquests of the Islamic First Jihad, were Mohammed's followers not to ..... Sura 8:12 ....instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks... 623 - Battle of Waddan 623 - Battle of Safwan 623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir 624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement. 624 - Zakat becomes mandatory 624 - Battle of Badr 624 - Battle of Bani Salim 624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr 624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa 624 - Battle of Sawiq 624 - Battle of Ghatfan 624 - Battle of Bahran 625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed. 625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad 625 - Battle of Banu Nudair 625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa 626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra 626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal 626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah 627 - Battle of the Trench 627 - Battle of Ahzab 627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza 627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan 627 - Battle of Ghaiba 627 - Battle of Khaibar 628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish. 630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca. 630 - Battle of Hunsin. 630 - Battle of Tabuk 632 - Muhammad dies. 632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia. 633 - Battle at Oman 633 - Battle at Hadramaut. 633 - Battle of Kazima 633 - Battle of Walaja 633 - Battle of Ulleis 633 - Battle of Anbar 634 - Battle of Basra, 634 - Battle of Damascus 634 - Battle of Ajnadin. 634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph. 634 - Battle of Namaraq 634 - Battle of Saqatia. 635 - Battle of Bridge. 635 - Battle of Buwaib. 635 - Conquest of Damascus. 635 - Battle of Fahl. 636 - Battle of Yermuk. 636 - Battle of Qadsiyia. 636 - Conquest of Madain. 637 - Battle of Jalula. 638 - Battle of Yarmouk. 638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem. 638 - Conquest of Jazirah. 639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt. 641 - Battle of Nihawand 642 - Battle of Ray in Persia 643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan 644 - Conquest of Fars 644 - Conquest of Kharan. 644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph. 647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress 644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman. 648 - Campaign against the Byzantines. 651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines. 654 - Islam spreads into North Africa 656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph. 658 - Battle of Nahrawan. 659 - Conquest of Egypt 661 - Ali is murdered. 662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule. 666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims 677 - Siege of Constantinople 687 - Battle of Kufa 691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq 700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam 700 - Military campaigns in North Africa 702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira 711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar 711 - Conquest of Spain 713 - Conquest of Multan 716 - Invasion of Constantinople 732 - Battle of Tours in France. 740 - Battle of the Nobles. 741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa 744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr. 746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha 748 - Battle of Rayy. 749 - Battle of lsfahan 749 - Battle of Nihawand 750 - Battle of Zab 772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa 777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain It's obvious that Islam has not been a religion of peace from the beginning of the Islamic calendar at Hijra, with Mohammed himself having had 800 Jewish farm boys and their dads of the Banu Quraisa brought before him and beheaded, while sexually enslaving their wives and children, and stealing their property. Indeed, by the time the Islamic hordes arrived in Tours France in 732, they were traveling with so much stolen property or as the Quran calls it "booty", that it impeded their escape after their failed assault. Nor is Islam a religion of peace today with over 16,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world just since 9-11, as meticulously logged by the folks at TheReligionOfPeace.com, that were perpetrated by those that behave as Mohammed did. As Benjamin Netanyahu said "If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel". Muslim leaders vow to "drive the Jews into the sea" and "kill all the Jews" and conquer Israel, in part because Muslims enjoy more freedom in Israel's democracy today, than Muslims do in any Islamic state. Perhaps nothing is more diametrically opposed to Islam than freedom. Ironically western peace loving Muslims are cheering on their own destruction, because just as Mohammed's call to violence abrogates his earlier notions of peace, the most violent of Mohammed's true followers that "strike terror into the hearts" of the innocent, will be the ultimate arbiters of Islam "nullifying" any peacenick apostates that find it repugnant to imitate the violent behavior of their prophet. Blessedly according to Islamic scholars 75% of so-called "converts" to Islam in the U.S. leave within a few years. Perhaps the 25% left are women who had children with Muslim husbands and don't want them kidnapped and taken to the middle east, and the intellectually challenged such as prison converts. To our Muslim friends, why not come out of Mohammed's stand-alone 7th century religion, and prostration toward the Quraish's black stone idol and Kaaba in Mecca, to join us in following the one true God through the Prince of Peace - the sinless Messiah - the Lamb of God? 1John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. For discussion of this subject please join us in the Islam-Christian Forum at the first link below the video. The drop-down menu below this video contains lots of links to other videos and resources regarding abrogation and more. please visit BrotherPete.com